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Most of the words above heard in election coverage are in quotation marks as misrepresentations.  Let me explain.




SOME BIBLE PERSPECTIVE ON TED HAGGARD, THE NEW LIFE CHURCHES MOVEMENT, AND EVANGELICALS




 




Even as President Bush is a pretty good politician but no theologian with a superficial concept of evil as more isolated to an axis of three countries with a failure to recognize that to God and the Bible, the greatest evil is unbelief, in the United States or anywhere; so also can a novice church movement like that of the New Life and of Rod Presslar neither represent Christianity and denominational history, nor except in the secular minds of newscasters represent evangelicals and the 9 month new birth.




 






  1. Bible fact number 1:  an evil heart of unbelief is the most real evil, and the only evil will that eternally isolate any citizen from God and from salvation.


 




“Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.”  (Hebrews 3:11)




 




This serves to remind us that most of the so called people of God in the wilderness fell, in the wilderness and eternally, because of an evil heart of unbelief, and also serves to remind us that this will also happen approximately 40-80 years before the Falling Away as most church members become intolerant of God, Christ, and the sound doctrine of the Bible. 




 






  1. Bible fact number 2:  Jesus foretold this great Falling Away among Christians as “because sin will abound the love of many will wax cold.”


 




This abounding of sin is called in II Thessalonians the “mystery of lawlessness” .  In God’s sight and from the perspective of the Bible lawlessness and sin are virtual equivalents.  Paul in II Thessalonians told of how the mystery was already at work in New Testament times, and how it would be like a rising tide of lawlessness that would flood the whole world before the Second Coming and that would include a Falling Away of church members, not from church attendance as  the mega churches like the New Life in Colorado Springs will continue to grow even as church members fall away from God, Christ, and the Bible.  According to II Thessalonians, the world dominance of lawlessness will usher in Satan immediately after the Holy Spirit is withdrawn from the earth, which will also fulfill the prophecy of Daniel related to the Falling Away where the “power of the holy people is completely shattered.”




 






  1. Bible fact number 3:  The New Testament warned about a superficial exaltation of novice pastors, evangelists, and novice churches like Ted Haggard, Rod Presslar, and the New Life Church Movement.  At some point church historians must investigate the real meaning of “new life” in that church movement.  Perhaps it is an emphasis on the new birth experience that Jesus taught in John 3, unfortunately we have not read it carefully enough to be leery of instantaneous new birth as contrasted to the type of new birth that Jesus taught which like the physical birth requires 9 months.  And what I think the news meant, especially CNN, in talking quite often of the “Evangelicals and born again whites” in this nation, is those like the fundamentalists of the SBC--by no means all southern Baptists, only the fundamentalists now in control of the Convention, the largest Protestant body in the world and up until recently in the history of denominations the most evangelical in the world; however we hope even as Democrats have overthrown the seemingly invincible power of the Republicans so also will the real southern Baptists regain control over the SBC.


 




“not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil.”  (I Timothy 3:6)




 




The same churches and churches members as stated in the primary thesis of the SunGrist Bible commentary, WHAT THE CHURCHES DON’T WANT YOU TO HEAR, who don’t want you to know that they themselves are inevitably leaders in the world-wide Falling Away—primarily because they have seen more works of God and therefore have more to fall away from—are the same novice church members like at New Life church who must bare responsibility with their pastor, Ted Haggard, for their Falling Away!  They with their rapid church growth, like Saddleback in California and the bishop lead church in Atlanta, and the pride in which with the building of new stone and brick buildings, and becoming part of the establishment which is synonymous with “world” in the Bible, have lost priorities like Satan did before he fell from heaven.




 






  1. Bible fact #4:  Satan is active, more so now as he is about to be released from bondage as the Holy Spirit is withdrawn with His restraining work of convicting the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment.  {Many charismatic and Pentecostal churches like New Life with their violations of the Corinthian Scriptures—unrestrained, disorderly outbursts of self-expression and self-glorification and without “understanding and spirit” will continue on in worship, especially with tongues and self-glorification in their healing capabilities as just part of the false Gospel of Prosperity, without an awareness that the Holy Spirit has been withdrawn from earth.  Satan tempts the most capable and active church leaders today even as he tempted Jesus, first when such leaders as Ted Haggard see what they can have of the world, Satan says to them “all this I will give you (and truly Satan, the prince of this world has this power now even before the Holy Spirit is withdrawn)…if you will fall down and worship me.”  And with that surrender of allegiance to Satan, like Haggard did and perhaps most of the New Life Church, even as most of the world-wide Christian movement is doing, comes the other two temptations.  You will also see them as sure signs that a pastor, evangelists, itching ears Bible teacher, or whole church has already sold out in allegiance to the world and to Satan.  These are summarized as:  (1) turning the stones into bread, efforts of Satan to pervert spiritual talent to materialistic ends, the form of which today we see as the Gospel of Prosperity, nothing less than the classical American thought pattern of the history of American Thought called the Gospel of Wealth and the corollary of success (you see it also in the mega churches like New Life where shopping centers are built in the church building); and (2) tempting God in some fashion by jumping in all the mud puddles to test God to deliver.  You saw this latter in the Baker movement of “Praise God” where God is to be thanked for all that happens, good or bad; and you see it continuing in Lakewood church in Houston.


 




“Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of this world and their glory {there is none greater now than the kingdom of the United States).  And he said to Him {Satan said to Jesus), ‘All these things I will give you if You will fall down and worship me.’”  (Matthew 4:8,9)




 




Don’t you know that at some point in his fame as the National Evangelical Association, and with influence in the nation and with politicians, Satan came to Ted Haggard even as he did to all church leaders and church members of  New Life, as typically he does to all churches and church leaders in this nation, to say I will give you all that you desire of the fame and fortune and status and “a form of godliness” that you desire, if you will just secretly make allegiance to me, Satan says.




 






  1. Bible fact number 5:  we are horrified to realize that II Timothy 3:1-9 is a “perilous times” description of church leaders and church members today, those who have a very active and perhaps evangelical in the sense of which the world news uses the word, an evangelical form of godliness that denies God and denies the real power of God as manifested with a 9 month new birth.


 




“For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power.  And from such people turn away!”  (II Timothy 3:2-5)




 




Somewhere in some of those characteristics, certainly in the form of godliness with the substance of godliness, you will find Ted Haggard, the New Life churches, and most of the churches of the world today.  Sin in the world and in the United States has certainly abounded, lawlessness in the world and in the United States has certainly abounded in terrorism, in corruption in our law making bodies, in leadership of big business, in priests molesting children, and in the unnatural uses of men and women.




 






  1. Bible fact number 6:  there is a big difference between sin which all humans, leaders, and church members by nature and choice inevitable do and the habitual continuance in a sin for many years like Ted Haggard admitted to.  The book of I John distinguishes between these two as “sin” and “commiteth” sin in the a habitual and repetitive manner over a period of time without real “godly sorrow which works repentance”.


 




“Whosoever is born of God doeth not commit sin {habitual and continuous sin without godly repentance); for his seed remaineth in him:  and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.”  (I John 3:9)




 




Now what will happen is that New Life community churches all over the nation will close ranks, and in particular their leaders, to protect the status and reputation of such large churches with approximately 14,000 members by subtle public announcements that Ted Haggard was an isolated casualty of the war with Satan.  There is nothing wrong with their church and the rest of their leaders, once again ignoring and covering up the results in every church and among all church members of the Falling Away.  You think that Haggard, no doubt now in depression, came up by himself with such characteristics applied to himself of Satan as “darkness”, “liar”, and “deceiver”.  No, the US “evangelicals”—whatever that word means, truly not a biblical word and can not include the SBC, the largest evangelical and Protestant denomination in the world, have rushed to identify Ted with Satan, putting themselves in the background of where no sins of the Falling Away exist.  What was true before this infamous incident in the news, and as presented in the book WHAT THE CHURCHES DON’T WANT YOU TO HEAR, is even more true now!




 




REMEMBER THAT THE FALLING AWAY IS THE CHALLENGE OF OUR GENERATION, MORE SO THAN TERRORISM; AND THIS TED HAGGARD SITUATION IS ONLY A SHOCK OF AWARENESS FOR MANY!




 






  1. Bible fact # 7:


 




“Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal:  ‘The Lord knows those who are His,’ and ‘Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”  (II Timothy 2:19)




 






 




 




 







2006-11-09 13:37:17 GMT
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