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National "Den of Thieves"

Whereas once to foreign visitors the American character was most determined by "pulpits aflame with the righteuosness of God", now based on what has recently been uncovered in American business and life, the current American character and personality is more determined by "things" and "covetousness". The book of Jeremiah opens our eyes to awesome possibility that a naton of God’s people, then in Jeremiah and now in the home of the brave and the land of the free, that a nation can so be dominated by "covetousness" that it becomes a NATIONAL "DEN OF THIEVES".

"Because from the least of them even to the greatest of them, everyone is given to covetousness..." (Jeremiah 6:13a)

And such a nation of God’s people, then and now, can not get that way without moral and spiritual backruptcy of the national leadership--pastors, denominational leaders {like the priests}, evangelists and prophets {like the prophets of Jeremiah and the Old Testament, the scribes {like the college and seminary professors of Bible and religion}, and the government {princes and other rulers in Jeremiah}. The point of Jeremiah, and primarily God through Jeremiah, as God most often supplied the very words to Jeremiah as in the famous Temple Message of Jeremiah 7 and Jeremiah 23, is that God’s people in the land and God’s leaders--both government, business, religious, and educational leaders--were the same, without any real distinction of holiness, dedication to God, and righteousness: they were all from the top to the bottom, from "the least to the greatest" given over to COVETOUSNESS. And that greed and covetousness led the religious leaders, primarily the prophets and priests, to deal "falsely" in that primarily they were not doning their job as a priority to God Himself.

"...And from the prophet even to the priest, everyone deals falsely." (Jeremiah 6:13b)

NOTE PLEASE: It is not being said that right now the United States as "one nation under God" is as bad as what the nation of God’s people of Judah were during the days of Jeremiah, in the sight of God; however, this worse than can happen to a nation of God’s people, wherein God and later Jesus, label them as a National "Den of Thieves", shows us the horrible "Spiritual State-of-the-Union" that a nation of God’s own chosen people can come to; and since next of the Falling Away of God’s people after 40 years in the wilderness and the book of Hebrews which explains what happened as "an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God", the book of Jeremiah is our best, bad example of the Falling Away. Surely by now, you have realized that the book of Jeremiah defines "backsliding" itself as not away from attendance at the house of God, but rather as a forsaking of God Himself as the "fountain of living waters" and substitutes for salvation of broken cisterns, or other gods; that backsliding is the last two stages of the Falling Away of II Timothy 4:3,4, "the turning away from truth" and "the being turned into fables"; that America and American churches are now in engulfed in the third stage of the Falling Away as we daily witness the massive "heaping up" of Bible teachers, preachers, evangelists, and prophets with "itching ears", and there are some advanced signs, like in Jeremiah which defines "backsliding", that American churches and people have or are beginning to turn their back and ears to truth itself.

1. How do you account for this national trend of a "Den of Thieves"?

(1). "Everyone from the least to the greatest, all citizens and all leaders" are given to covetousness" and greed.

(2). The religious and national leaders, by example and leadership, have both allowed it to happen and promoted it, by dealing falsely.

"An astonding and horrible thing has been committed in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule by their own power; and My people love to have it so." (Jeremiah 5:30,31)

With the recent revelations about the American business of Wall Street and Main Street, the widespread "greed" and covetousness from the top to the bottom in America, we can appreciate the words of Jeremiah about "they are all given to covetousness from the least to the greatest" (Jeremiah 6:13) This message/chapter is really about preaching, teaching, and prophesy of the Bible as the Word of God, but that will become clear as we get into Jeremiah 6 and 23.

While it seems like using our elephant guns of "preach the word" of the Bible to go after the common violations among God’s people and preachers of proper respect and regard for the Bible as the Word of God, we are given both justification and examples in the book of Jeremiah where all the official prophets and priests had abandoned the oracles of God to preach their own dreams, visions, and special revelations. And while we might spend our efforts like many of the fighting fundamentalists banging away at the lesser battles of "inspiration of Genesis 1-11", the "old testament as invented by Israel", and even the exact mode of the inspiration of the Bible, with attacks on others who also claim to be God’s people, we stand on more sure ground as we ourselves shot from the objective hard-core revealed Word of God in the book of Jeremiah; and while few if any of God’s people today would want to claim that in America and American churches today it is as bad in our churches as in the nation of Judah at the time of Jeremiah where all the prophets and priests (1) "everyone deals falsely", (2) "They have also healed the hurt of My people slightly", and (3) "everyone is given to covetousness" (Jeremiah 6:13-14).

Even while we are facing up to spiritual and eternal truth and truths in the view of God, particularly about majority and minority matters like there were only 7,000 people in the whole nation of Israel in the time of the Prophet Elijah who had not bowed the knee to other gods--in the words of Jeremiah "forsaken the God of living waters" in favor of "broken cisterns that could hold no water"--we must face up to the truth and reality that even as all the official prophets and priests of Jeremiah, except the lone spokesman for God of Jeremiah, were defunct and bankrupt, devoid of any real personal contact with God. And having reconciling our thinking to that awesome possibility even like we are now facing up to realities in this "land of the free and home of the brave" never before imagined or conceived, like legalization of gay marriages and collapse of economic confidence in business and government leaders, perhaps now we have a mind set that can face up to the awesome challenge that we have many false prophets and itching ears Bible teachers in our pulpits, denominational and theological training institutions, and Bible classes of our churches. Can you consider that, now? Then digest on these words from the Word of God below.

"Because from the least of them even to the greatest of them, everyone is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even to the priest, everyone deals falsely. They have also healed the hurt of My people slightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace! When there is no peace." (Jeremiah 6:13,14)

2. "Greed is covetousness", according to the Word of God; and it was only natural that it would evolve as a determinative factor in this National "Den of Thieves" in which "competition", as personnified and glorified selfishness, slip from that self-centered national status into covetousness and greed.

While "covetousness" according to the clear, even blunt words of God in Jeremiah, was a determinative factor in the creation and evolution of a nation of God’s people into a "National Den of Thieves", in the day of Jeremiah and in the day of Jesus, it has now during the last year or so as so many national cover-ups have been uncovered in American business and government that we see the role greed has played from the top to the bottom during this economic crisis, as at the bottom ordinary citizens coveted more real estate and mortgage than they needed or could pay for, and as at the top American business men lusted after all that additional money they could get away with while practicing not only deceit but also unethical and immoral business practices; and the leaders in government allowed it all as part of the "free entreprise system".

3. As at the temple of Jesus’ day many of the religious leaders were profiting from "making My Father’s house a den of thieves" and merchadizing, as in Jeremiah during a time of national crisis, the national leaders continued to prosper unabated right up to the end, so from the least to the greatest, top to bottom, in American today those that "would desire to be rich" (I Timothy 6:9)--pastors, government leaders, and people at large, have fallen "into temptation and a snare."

(1). You don’t have to be rich in order to make "other gods" out of things and greed, of course the rich always having a problem with God’s salvation as it is harder for them to enter the kingdom of God than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle; but just ordinary citizens, what we might call the middle class of American, and by the way also the poor, if they ONLY DESIRE TO BE RICH, quickly can and did recently in America fall over the edge into the temptation and snare of the devil. Why the devil? Because he is the prince of the power of the air, the ruler of the things and system of this world!

"But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perditon." (I Timothy 6:9)

(2). Status is closely related in Jeremiah, in the time of Jesus and now in America with prosperity and richness, among pastors and other religious leaders as well as among businesmen and leaders in government {goodness, have you suddenly forgotten the popularity of "Popular Preachers of Prosperity" and the religious success and wealth motivational speakers in the name of relgion, which we think are suddenly quite now, or at least re-gearing", which has caused pastors and other relgious leaders of moral standing in the community and nation and other national leaders "to stray from their faith in their greediness", like in Jeremiah.

"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (I Timothy 6:10)

NOTE: Wouldn’t we love it if we had trouble interpreting those plain speaking words of the Word of God in the bible. Bottom line, Christians or any church member or otherwise claiming to be a member of God’s people, or even claiming to be part of the "one nation under God" of God’s people of the United States, should not love money, whether he has it or not; should not be led astray from the faith by greediness; and should not even "desire to be rich".

(3). The END is not good. Recently a CFO of a large home mortgage business in Virginia, one of national size and repute, committed suicide. The people can love to have the status quo where "prophets prophesy falsely", where "priests rule by their own power"; but we are starting to see some of the end result now. Very seldom does the "judgement of God", alias true justice, and the "punishment of God" correlate together at the same time--most generally as at Mount Sinai when God’s people were caught in a worship of "other gods" the judgement is made immediately and the punishment delayed for in God’s own time, and you will find some of that also in the book of Jeremiah---but according to God in the Bible, and in umistageable terms, God’s uses calamties to chastise immediately and correct immediatfely His own people, and on the national level; and that chastisement, at least from the perspective of the people like in America today where there has been an incessant series of calamties on this nation since 9/11, might seem as immediate punishment now. Of course, the end punishment at the end of time, and at the end of the Falling Away, with the second coming of Christ, will be far worse and far more eternal.

"An astonishing and horrible thing has been committed in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule by their own power; and My people love to have it so. BUT WHAT WILL YOU DO IN THE END?" (Jeremiah 5:30,31)

4. I know, the ordinary American and church member just can not think that this "good guy" who is our pastor or relgious leaders could either (1) deal falsely in the way he does his job as an obligation to God, or (2) be covetous like the rest of us; but that is the very point, "like the priest lke the people", and vice verse; it is because relgious leaders are so like the people of the land, in Jeremiah and today, and that these relgious leaders, in spite of their education and often because of their education, and in spite of their national and community status, stive to be like and appear like the people of the naiton.

WHAT is the nature of the problem and HOW does this problem of spiritual bankruptcy in leadership and churches come about? This is will be th subject of a section to follow of this chapter/message as we quickly and briefly trace the words "prophets and priests" through the first 23 chapters of Jeremiah, especially noting where the prohets and priests are so similar to the people of the nation and land.

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2009-05-01 18:08:06 GMT
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